7/07/06 at 03:19 AM
"You don't think the casinos are losing millions to the dice setters? Why do you think a certain downtown Vegas casino that used to welcome us routinely bans dice setters these days. Hint. It ain't because Bubba spent too much time schooling the dice. It's because one player hit them for $9 million one night earlier this year." **and it looks like I am not the only person to question Heavy's BS, as Big Joe states later that same day:
and Jimmy V. has a similar concern:OK HEAVY, I have to take issue on that last statement. ... Knowing their bottom line is always number one to the casino. Pit guys have people to answer to and I really dont think I would want to be the one telling my boss I let in the million dollar loss. Sorry dude I dont buy that maybe I am nieve. GL big joe **
That figure of 9,000,000.00 seems downright unconscionable. If it was an open table at the G.N. with betting limits of 5 - 5,000, how many hours would it take to reach that amount even at betting $ 5000 max per place number ? Can you imagine how crowded and noisy that table would be? The action would have to slow down incredibly to make all of the wagers with every Tom, Dick and Harry wanting to get in on the action. I could see them allowing up to 100 K going out to the player, but even after that small amount why did they not just close the table ?
I have heard of whole crews being fired after a huge win of 100K or so, but letting the table take away 9 million chips ?
So we went to the Nevada Gaming Commission public Gaming Revenue Reports *** for 2006 Downtown Las Vegas and looked at the monthly reports to prove how impossible Heavy's statement was. Sure enough, the numbers do not lie -- the figures for the Craps tables did not show any significant deviation from normal $5. bettors with a Win Percentage near 12% each month ---- definitely no $9 million loss by the casinos on 1 table as Heavy reported to help sell his craps classes and instruction material !!Even if this was a closed high limit table, at the very most I could see 500 K being won and then closing the table. Someone in management screwed up big time to let a craps table let go of 9 mill.Jimmy V. **
** - John Patrick's Message Board ...
*** - Nevada Gaming Reports ...
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